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vader · Mar 27, 2011, 04:59 PM // 16:59

I usually PUG for the Z-Missions. Other than that, its me and my heroes.

Lord Dagon · Mar 27, 2011, 05:16 PM // 17:16

i never pug. heros dont rage at my ele using fire magic in HM, they do whatever i tell them, they dont throw themselves 3 aggro bubbles away while im killing, they dont go afk at key moments, they use skills when i tell them to, they maintain minion armies better then people, etc.

I could keep going on and on about that tho. Only time i bring real people is when im lonely and feel like tlaking to my friends. That and most of my freinds are in the "general pve" type player like me and not huge SCers, so they actually pay attention to my 4yrs of knowledge.

AlsPals · Mar 27, 2011, 05:16 PM // 17:16

The only time pugging was at its best was always immediately after the release of a chapter, especially GW Vanilla. Nowadays, I 7 hero, and H/H before that. On the other hand, I do pug if someone needs help with a mission and asks in main chat, or for shits and giggles I pair up with a group and we run random stuff. Pugging is REALLY fun when you dont have a goal(like actually completing a mission) and everyone is ok with failing. I have had groups with no primary healers running around in HM cracking jokes in chat, and upon wiping, we do it all over again.

majoho · Mar 27, 2011, 05:51 PM // 17:51

I haven't grouped since Factions aside from when I have offered to help some person having trouble doing something.

Cuilan · Mar 27, 2011, 09:05 PM // 21:05

I'll use heroes to do something small or to get my character to somewhere. Some of my lesser used characters don't have all that many developed heroes and when I do use heroes I'm often not playing with my character...because I find hero groups to be mind numbingly boring. Macro-ing them takes away any fun that I could have when I could be interacting with a party normally instead of dragging a bunch of brainless bots around.

Most of the skilled players I've played with were from PUGs. Guilds are nice, but they're not always doing what you're doing.

For the most part I try to have people ping just to see what's all going on and if there's any issues. Sometimes I leave things alone and other times I'll make suggestions of skills or builds. That's not the same as jamming a "PvX" build down someone's throat.

Groups get things done and they'll often offer information or consumables. Some minority of players are a bit dumb or rude, but they can easily be spotted.

Basically heroes are a waste of my time.

**cosyfiep** · Mar 27, 2011, 09:29 PM // 21:29

I pug for areas that I have trouble doing by myself. (hm dungeons before 7 heroes). and a few elite areas. I dont do it any more since I got tired of changing my builds to fit whomever was the party leader---and yes my mesmer DOES use a bow--very effectively I might add

my heroes never complain if I need to stop and take a phone call or short wc break, and they are always willing to play with me even at 4am my time when most of the americans are asleep.

Don Zardeone · Mar 27, 2011, 10:23 PM // 22:23

I often like to do a vanquish that lasts several hours. I have a hotkey that does c-space and I just hit that every few reps or sets while I work out. Heroes generally do the rest. The build I use now isn't fun anyway. I run in, maybe finish one attack chain and then target dies. I move onto next target which is at 10% health and dies to simple autoattacks. So meh.

I'm thinking of multitasking like this when I watch a movie... but it may mess with my enjoyment of the movie... so probably not.

Can't work out when I'm with a pug. Thus, pugs make you fat.

Aeronwen · Mar 27, 2011, 10:41 PM // 22:41

my guildies never complain if I need to stop and take a phone call or short wc break, and they are always willing to play with me even at 4am my time

and they can carry on without me if i need to be away longer ^^

oh and their conversation is really entertaining.

We take any prof and any build - within reason, and if we have a balanced group so we know we can carry passangers we will take randoms. I have met some great people that way - and many become guildies

Nilator · Mar 27, 2011, 10:49 PM // 22:49

For general PvE/HM(VQ's mainly) I will always 7 Hero it.

I do ZB+ZM if I feel like it with PuG's though.
I only PuG in HM when I'm on my monk though, I generally don't trust other monks because most try to run something that generally looks like random skills on a bar with mismatching attributes.

MisterB · Mar 27, 2011, 11:01 PM // 23:01

Many PUGs seem to be afraid to leave an outpost without UA. That tells me they intend to fail, so I don't want to join.

garethporlest18 · Mar 28, 2011, 01:22 AM // 01:22

I used to PUG a lot, for fun back in the day. Not so much anymore, in fact, not at all. I mainly play with heroes because I move slow (on purpose) and that's the way I like to play.

TheGizzy · Mar 28, 2011, 01:28 AM // 01:28

I'm a fairly anti-social introvert 99% of the time. I enjoy playing with my husband, best friend and a couple of awesome people I met via Guru from time-to-time, but personality-wise, I'm a loner. I can go weeks without talking to anyone but hubby/kids/best friend and not even notice it.

I enjoy playing with a group of friends who I know well and who know each other well... you know, the inside jokes, the chats about lifetheuniverseeverything, and where the dynamics are established. And in gaming, I tend to only play with friends who don't care if we die a lot.

My best friend has another friend he plays WoW with... I love the guy, he's sweet as hell... but he's a bit insane when it comes to gaming. I won't play with him. Partly because I don't want to put my best friend in a position of having to referee between the two of us when I tell him to suck dirt over his pissing and moaning about a missed spell, a party wipe, whatever. LOL

So yeah... I either play by myself, or play with people who are as laid-back about it as I am.

I don't find that in PuGs... and honestly, I spend my working hours dealing with whiny, self-entitled narcissistic gamers... I don't want to do it when I'm supposed to be off and relaxing, too.

chilly willy · Mar 28, 2011, 02:40 AM // 02:40

i dont pug because every single pug i joined besides the battle for lions arch group sucked major balls. also i hate people who insist on me needing to have an exact build. i would be fine with "someone needs a res" or "someone needs pain inverter or something" but "run this or get bent" is not fun to me. none of my builds suck they might be wierd but they never suck they always suit my gameplay and i outfit my heroes the same way. the first pvx builds i used were 2 man necroway with my cousin and 1 man sabway when by myself. since then i have learned to rock my own awesome builds that suit my style better. i love 7 heroes because i have complete control now. HM is now 100% doable the only problem i have is foundry but only because i dont care enough and the four horsemen in UW. also being able to get up and take a dump in the middle of a vanquish is nice. nature does happen dudes. all in all with the awesome 7 hero update i am checking off my bucket list for gw before gw2 comes out and loving the game again after my 4 month hiatus.

Horus Moonlight · Mar 28, 2011, 04:18 AM // 04:18

Use to PuG back in the prophecy days when other players seemed to be sane. Nowadays, I either get "lol go PvX build or gtfo" or "I m ragner of death XxX wtch as slay my enmenies wit firestrom and my pet wolf of death XxX"

It's as if the players that represented the middle-ground all quit.

rusty89 · Mar 28, 2011, 04:50 AM // 04:50

I have 29 max titles and anything that involved fighting, such as vanquishing, missions, and dungeons, I did with heroes and henchman, just because it was easier. Now when I play, for the most part I'm just doing the zaishen stuff and I look for pugs just for a change of pace. But even with my KoBD title track displayed sometimes I still have trouble getting into a pug right away just because I'm playing a sin. So if it takes too long to find a group or I find a group and it fails, I'll just go ahead and use heroes.

Gabs88 · Mar 28, 2011, 04:59 AM // 04:59

I try pugs now and then, and they never do anything but let me down. I think unwakening waters is a prime example as it was ZB the other day. You go in with a pug, and it takes 15 minutes fighting around the entire map and killing every group. You go in with heroes, it takes 1 minute 10-30 secounds and youre done.

In general though, if the damage side of things was as easy to sort in a PUG as the healer side of things (LF HB + UA anyone?) things would improve drastically. But that still wouldnt be enough for most players to become good players.

Another large part of the problem is that many of the players playing in pugs are simply those that find it too hard to do the same content playing with heroes. Which I simply find ridicilous, because if anything. Pugs have a hundred times higher chance of failiure compared to a hero group on an equivilent mission

Trevino · Mar 28, 2011, 05:01 AM // 05:01

I enjoy grouping even when i don't need to. I just like to interact while playing since my guild is sorta inactive >.>. Having the 7-hero group though is hella helpful on the other hand though.

Snorph · Mar 28, 2011, 05:10 AM // 05:10

It has to do with who you pug with, and who you want. Just ask them, and only get those that want to play for fun, and not to be serious. I don't like serious players either, so I am very picky on who I take with me on a run.

Kurosaki129 · Mar 28, 2011, 05:10 AM // 05:10

I dont pug b/c when i play as a monk profession, i often get..

"HB or UA"?

If i say neither, i get this..

"Can you go UA or HB" ?

which pisses me off b/c whenever I run Healing Burst as an Elite, I get those questions, it really restricts what build i like to play.

I don't go with PUGs anymore now, since the 7 hero update. PUGs are so dis-organized and not to say the PUG leader itself just accept invites and doesn't bother looking at the party list where we had only 1 healer and alot of melees

It wastes my time, so i rather make the builds with my heros and do stuff with my guild.

Snorph · Mar 28, 2011, 05:14 AM // 05:14

And thats what its all about, play a build to you liking, not theirs, my point, I can carless if they don't like it or not. I play what I want and thats it. Name of the game is to be creative, not to do what they want you to do. I don't, they don't like it, oh well, no sweat off my back. I'll find another pug,

Hit me up sometime, I'll pug with people just for fun.

Another thing I suggest, you can post here on the forums in the section looking for help, and post in here http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/p...ping-f269.html JUST FOR FUN,

You'll get alot of responses on here, I did. Helps alot.

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Originally Posted by Kurosaki129

I dont pug b/c when i play as a monk profession, i often get..

"HB or UA"?

If i say neither, i get this..

"Can you go UA or HB" ?

which pisses me off b/c whenever I run Healing Burst as an Elite, I get those questions, it really restricts what build i like to play.

I don't go with PUGs anymore now, since the 7 hero update. PUGs are so dis-organized and not to say the PUG leader itself just accept invites and doesn't bother looking at the party list where we had only 1 healer and alot of melees

It wastes my time, so i rather make the builds with my heros and do stuff with my guild.